2017 Review – A year in St. Petersburg

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I started 2017 in Kiev, finishing a half a year jaunt while waiting for my Russian Visa. Then I moved permanently to St. Peterburg on January 11 for work. So actually a couple of days ago marked my one year anniversary in Mother Russia.

When I started my Daygame journey in Dublin, I was lacking quality and volume. So I moved to Tallinn in mid-2016, where I’ve lived a year there. In Tallinn, girls were hot! Quality was definitely there but it’s a half a million city so volume was low. But this is where I’ve really mastered solo Daygame.

Finally, since I’ve moved to St. Peterburg I got what I wanted, a city with quality and volume. Therefore, I haven’t felt the need to go on Daygame trips (aka Jaunts) anymore. I’ve been a couple of weeks in Moscow, a reconnaissance trip in Rostov-On-Don and recently to Hong Kong. But as RickyRoma pointed out once: “Pretty much everywhere else you go would be a step-down”. Obviously, it can be argued depending on the kind of girls you likes. But, I personally totally agree with him. I have never lived in a city with so many hot girls! I’m a lucky bastard! 😄

So yeah guys, I’ve been almost all 2017 gaming in Russia.

Statistics – Daygame only

As a reminder, I don’t track my Nightgame, Social circle or other kinds of games. The below numbers are purely Daygame stats.

Approaches 486
Contact info 121 25%
iDate 3 1%
Date 1 27 6%
Date 2 9 2%
Date 3 7 1%
Date 4 3 1%
Date 5 1 0%
Lays 9 2%

486 approaches

ed. I really thought I’ve done way more! At mid-2017, I was at around 358 approaches. So I’ve done only 128 approaches during the second half of the year. Well… I got a big work assignment from October, so I guess it makes sense.Over half of my approaches (282) were in malls, mainly Galeria. It’s cold in St. Peterburg.

Same as RoyWalker in his 2017 review, 99% of the time, I have no idea what I’m going to say to the girl until I’m in front of her. I’m happy to stay that this part has been internalized. It comes “naturally” now. I’m not saying I can’t improve that in-set part anymore but the foundations are there and solid enough. Go through the 1000+ sets of hell and it will happen eventually.

1 contact out of 4 approaches

I’ve done a bit better than the benchmark 1 contact out of 5 approaches. I’m quite happy with that ratio. Hopefully, Daygame Infinity will help improve this ratio even further.

1 Date 1 out of 4.5 contacts

Same as for the approach to contact ratio. I’m pretty happy with the 1 Date 1 out 4 approaches ratio. To be fair, since I haven’t traveled much, it didn’t have to rush the text game part.

Date 1, the filter date

Out of the 21 girls, I went on Date 1 with, I’ve only managed to get 9 of them for Date 2. But I dug deeper into the data, and here the interesting fact. Out of the 9 that I got out on a Date 2, I’ve gotten a lay with 5 of them. I’m still hoping to get a notch with the 6th one, which is the Russian Tourist Student.

Two Date 2 that I have gotten a lay with were long leads from Tallinn with Date 2 in Tallinn: the Estonian Agro Student and the Ukrainian Medieval Dancer.

So aside from her, I got a lay with the 5 other girls that I went out at least on Date 2.

It seems like, in general, if they agree to come out for a Date 2, sex is on the table at some point, on Date 2 or later.

2.25 dates to get a lay

It took me on average 2.25 dates to get a lay. It’s a bit over the benchmark 2 dates to get laid. So I guess it’s not too bad considering that Russian girls, generally, need more time according to some gurus and players.

1 lay out of 54 approaches

Apparently, “advanced” Daygamers hit 1 lay out of 25-30 approaches. Well, like RoyWalker, I still have a lot way to go…

12 lays in total

9 Daygame lays and below are the lucky ladies.

… and 3 other lays (Social and Nightgame)

Some thoughts, learnings, improvements for 2018

Addressing the approach to lay ratio

I don’t think I will be doing much more approaches. I still have a lot to learn but over the past 2 years, I’ve been dedicated almost most of my free time and travel to Daygame, especially time in the field approaching, at the expense of other parts of my life.

Don’t get me wrong, it was a mandatory phase to go through and overall I enjoyed it, especially the lays! It was more than worth it. I need to think about addressing the balance with the other aspects of my life, and approaching more is not gonna help much. A good 500 approaches should be enough.

But what I will work on from a Daygame perspective is the approach the lay ratio. Hitting 1 lay out of 30 approaches would be great! 

Dealing with LMR

I believe I’ve made significant improvements on the verbal and physical escalation part but as pointed out by other players on the Polish Erasmus Student post, it seems like I could “dance” better and smother to deal better with LMR and get the lay faster or more earlier into the date.

To be honest, at the moment, I really don’t enjoy LMR at all. It takes me too much time and it’s affected too much my next day with is usually a working day.

Daygame Trips/Jaunts

Nothing is sure at the moment but, I’m thinking about Tokyo in Spring, going back to Vilnius and Tallinn. I got a glimpse of Zagreb over New Year Eve with RoyWalker and RickyRoma and I quite enjoyed it. I might go back to Ukraine again, likely to Odessa/Nikolaev. Suggestions are welcome!

Regarding this blog

Some of you might have noticed that toward the end of 2017, I’ve been struggling to keep this blog updated due to lack of time and other priorities. I still have 5 posts in draft, some Date reports from December and monthly reviews. I thought posting this yearly review would be more useful.

I will probably have to write fewer Date reports, move from monthly to quarterly report posts and maybe start doing some mindwank-ish posts.

Happy 2018 players! I wish you to approach, date and bang plenty of hot girls! 

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22 thoughts on “2017 Review – A year in St. Petersburg

    • If you are really an introvert you know why I’m not a fan of social circle game. I have plenty of hobbies and interests. When I said other aspects of my life is other stuff that are not relevant to the topic of this blog.

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  1. Hey Seven, Great post!

    How do you compare the average level of beauty / quality in St Petersburg compared to Kiev?

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    • Thanks! It’s comparable but I like SPb more because there is more volume, it’s less “third world” feel and well… you don’t have to filter that much for gold diggers 😄

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      • Ok, for a girl who likes light blonde girls with blue eyes, which would have more of them Kiev or St Petersburg? 😀

        Sad that you said SPB is so cold all year long that it’s tough to do daygame. Is that Galeria mall big enough that if you did 10 approaches a day you will blend in and also have enough choices of light blonde hotties?

        Also, do you speak Russian or is English getting you far there?

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      • I think you will find more blonde in Kiev. Galeria is big but like most mall you can’t go all out. I have a life and job here so it’s ok. Full time daygaming in Galeria, I don’t think it’s an option.

        I speak more basics Russian but it’s for my daily life here. Not for game. To be able to game in Russian, I will probably need 10 more years.

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      • But if blondes with blue eyes is your type, I know there are small cities but from my experience for this type of girls, Tallinn and Riga are the best! Note that I’ve also lived in Tallinn for a year.

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      • Thank you. Well if you’re limited in how much you can daygame, what do you mean with Volume when you talk about St. P?

        I imagine volume means when you go out, it’s like going out to the streets of New York, you’re surrounded by people everywhere including many girls who are pretty and hot.

        Or do you mean that the percentage of hot girls is larger on average in SPB than most other cities you know?

        So Volume could mean quantity or it could mean a higher percentage of quality. Which is it? 🙂

        And what’s the problem with the smaller cities if you daygame every day? Will someone get much more in SPB compared to Tallin?

        Thanks!

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      • You are limited in Galeria, like most malls in any European city. It’s not NYC but it’s still a 5M people city.

        Volume just means it’s a 5M city with comparable quality as in Kiev. But there is twice as many people as Kiev, there are twice as many hot girls in absolute numbers. Does it make sense?

        The problem with smaller cities is that you will start seeing the same girls from Day 2! I approached the same girl 7 time over a period of 10 month in Tallinn! 😂 If you do 10 approaches a day in Tallinn, you will run out of sets in less than a week.

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    • Ok, GREAT. And how do you compare Moscow to St Petersburg?

      I expect the quality to be even better in Moscow because all the cute students from all over Russia go to Moscow to study, so it must be jam packed with high quality beauties 🙂

      Also, did you go work for a company in Russia, or did you start your own business there? Just wondering about this because I hear that the visa to Russia hard to get, and that is talking about tourist visa, I imagine a residence visa is even harder to acquire.

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      • The quality is similar in Moscow but for the same volume reason as Kiev vs. SPb. There are more girls in Moscow since is close to 12M people. But the logistics are not as good.

        I work for a company in Russia. They sponsored my visa. And yeah… it’s a pain for them and there is a significant cost. It took 6 months to get mine.

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      • >>There are more girls in Moscow since is close to 12M people. But the logistics are not as good.

        Hey Seven, could you explain how the logistics in Moscow could be not as good as Saint Petersburg? What do you mean with this?

        Thanks!

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      • >> could you explain how the logistics in Moscow could be not as good as Saint Petersburg? What do you mean with this?

        Moscow is much bigger and more spread out. I guess you can imagine the downside of this kind of city.

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  2. You actually make it appear so easy along with your presentation but I to find this topic to be actually one thing which I feel I would by no means understand. It seems too complex and very vast for me. I’m looking ahead to your subsequent post, I will attempt to get the dangle of it!

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  3. Seven, I saw you have a number of Date 4 Lays.

    I know that girls in Eastern Europe aren’t as fast when it comes to sex. But I was wondering, was the sex after 4 dates any good? According to Rollo, if a girl makes you wait that long she doesn’t desire you, so the sex will be very lame.

    So, to ask more bluntly, the girls you fucked after 4 dates, were they wet and horny and into come kinky shit? Or were they in missionary just getting fucked silently like a starfish?

    Thanks! You rock man, a lot of awesome information in your blog 🙂

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    • The Russian Singer (https://sevendaygame.wordpress.com/2017/02/13/lay-report-russian-singer/) became a regular and we were kinda in an open relationship for 2 months. We had sex countless times. I ended it because she getting clingy and wanted to see more and more often and I’ve also gotten bored of fucking her to honest.

      The Kazakh Pilates Instructor (https://sevendaygame.wordpress.com/2017/04/23/lay-report-kazakh-pilates-instructor/) also became a regular for a month or so. I ended it because she wanted to be exclusive. She loved the sex. She was not kinky but she was active and energic.

      The Architect student (https://sevendaygame.wordpress.com/2017/08/01/lay-with-the-architect-student/), after the lay, I saw her again once and after that, I’ve never heard from her again. She was more like the “starfish”. It could be that my performance was not great. In the post-sex talk, she told me I was only the second guy she had sex with. The first guy was a boyfriend and she made him wait for over a year.

      In my opinion, it has more to do with my escalation skills/ability to turn them on than them no desiring me.

      This is just me and maybe it will change over time with having more sex but I’m quite “vanilla” myself, (too) kinky sex actually turns me off. For example, the Crazy Russian-Yakut girl (https://sevendaygame.wordpress.com/2017/10/26/lay-with-crazy-russian-yakut-girl/), the second time and time we met I had to kick her off my place, it was too much/too kinky for me. I really didn’t like it.

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    • >> it was too much/too kinky for me

      Niiiice! Too much/too kinky is just right for me 🙂

      The only experience I had with Russian girls were ones I saw on vacation with their families, and they were very cold, very distant and very rude when I cold approached them in the street. It was those girls that go to Barcelona to spend a day from a cruise.

      So, I was a bit worried that Eastern European girls are cold like that all the time, and especially in bed. Btw, when you approach girls in SPB, do you get some harsh NO girls, or are they more friendly?

      Also, do you escalate on the first date? I have a friend whose “natural” game is okay but not as good as we aim to be, who went to Kiev and said that if he escalated physically on the girls on the first date they will not come back for a second date. Do you think that is because he was experiencing gold diggers in Kiev and so of course they are not interested much in physicality, or I should take things slow and only ramp it up around date 3?

      Also, since it takes up to 4 dates to get the girl, which were your favorite date places in Kiev?)

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      • >> Btw, when you approach girls in SPB, do you get some harsh NO girls, or are they more friendly?

        Haha! This makes me think you haven’t approached enough yet! It depends what you called a harsh no. If you mean a “Fuck off” or along those lines, I haven’t had any anywhere in a while. But I’ve scared many off in Hong Kong in November. But not in Russia.

        >> do you escalate on the first date?

        I have a lot of room for improvement in this part. But yeah, over 90% of the time I will escalate and at the very least try to kiss her.

        >> I should take things slow and only ramp it up around date 3

        I’m gonna give you a vague and general advice, it’s down the calibration how fast you escalate. I’ve been always shit in fast escalation. The best is that you run a test yourself.

        >> Also, since it takes up to 4 dates to get the girl, which were your favorite date places in Kiev?)

        Not in Kiev, it has never taken me more than 3 dates to get notch there.

        Regarding date venues, depends one where your accommodation is but I like Druzi café and Apelsiné

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      • Thank you Seven.

        Btw, I am going to Kiev. And thinking about the area to stay in, I imagined that since I want to meet University girls the best place would be for me to live near a University. So I imagined that staying near the Pecherska metro station would be ideal to daygame university girls in the streets.

        Do you think that is a good idea? Or there are much better places to see a larger number of university girls walking around during the day?

        It’s my first time in Kiev, so this is just my personal guess that staying near the Pecherska metro station would provide a steady stream of cuties walking around the day. But I may be wrong.

        >> If you mean a “Fuck off” or along those lines, I haven’t had any anywhere in a while.

        I try to approach as much as I can. I don’t get Fuck Off often from most girls. But ALL Russian Tourist girls in Barcelona, when I approached them in the street, told me to Fuck Off harshly and acted angry. I have met friendly Russian men, but the girls I did approach so far were rude Russian Fuck Off rejections. I am happy to know in their own country they’re much nicer 🙂

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      • >> So I imagined that staying near the Pecherska metro station would be ideal to daygame university girls in the streets. Do you think that is a good idea? Or there are much better places to see a larger number of university girls walking around during the day?

        Pecherska is just a small faculty. The main campus is on Universytet metro but I would recommend
        you to stay around Ploshcha Lva Tolstoho metro, it’s one station away and it’s better because there are more date venues.

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